Tyler, The Creator Talks With Nardwuar in Seventh Interview
Tyler, The Creator and Nardwuar’s ongoing rapport has become a beloved tradition for hip-hop fans, and during Tyler’s recent tour stop in Vancouver, the pair came together for their seventh interview in 14 years.
Their connection, a unique blend of humor, music knowledge, and candid conversation, never fails to capture the essence of Tyler’s personality and his deep passion for the art of hip-hop.
The interview covered a wide array of topics, spanning from their first interaction in 2011 to Tyler’s thoughts on sampling—particularly his decision to include Young Buck’s “Get Buck” in his track “Sticky” off Chromakopia.
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As they delved into their shared history, it became clear that Tyler’s views on hip-hop go far beyond the music itself.
For him, the genre represents a transformative force in the lives of many individuals, including his own.
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At one point in the conversation, Tyler reflected on the personal impact hip-hop has had on his life, emphasizing how the genre has been a guiding light for him and many others.
“Hip-hop has changed so many of our lives, kept so many of us out of trouble,”
he shared with Nardwuar, around the 23-minute mark.
“I’m so grateful for it. I’ve had my criticisms of it and all types of shit, but that’s out of love. ‘Cause man, I love music and hip-hop specifically so much. I’m a true student, I’m a true nerd… I love hip-hop, I love rap… It’s one of the most beautiful things to exist on Earth.”
However, Tyler didn’t shy away from addressing some of the more troubling aspects of the modern hip-hop scene, particularly the rise of artists who, in his view, aren’t contributing to the genre with genuine passion.
“We the coolest ever, and all these motherfuckers want to copy us and do everything,”
Tyler remarked, frustration creeping into his voice.
“Some n***as be mimicking and mocking it, and they just ain’t got the juice, ’cause they don’t really believe it here [gestures toward his heart]. You can see it, man, some of these folks… They look at it like it’s a quick money-getting thing. They look at it as a commodity. They look at it just to criticize it, and like, y’all ain’t grow up the same.”
As the conversation progressed, Tyler also reflected on some online criticism he received regarding his freestyle over Kendrick Lamar’s track “Hey Now” from GNX.
According to Tyler, some fans expressed frustration over his decision to rap on the same beat and with a similar flow to Kendrick.
“I saw someone say, ‘How Tyler just gonna take Kendrick’s song right after it comes out, and do the same flow over the same beat,’”
Tyler recalled.
“And I’m like, ‘Damn, that’s somebody else who did not grow up listening to rap or hip-hop.’ ‘Cause if you grew up listening to rap or hip-hop, you know that’s fucking normal.”
He suggested that those who are quick to criticize don’t understand the deeper history of hip-hop or its traditions.
“You should have to do a survey and show your ID before you could say shit on the internet, ’cause folks be saying dumb shit,”
he said, his frustration clear.
For Tyler, hip-hop is about honoring the roots of the genre, and experimenting with flows and beats is part of the creative freedom that defines it.
For fans, the conversation between Tyler and Nardwuar serves as a reminder of the unbreakable bond between the culture.
As Tyler’s career continues to evolve, one thing remains certain: his love for hip-hop is unwavering, and he will continue to speak out against those who undermine its legacy.
Check out the full interview above to hear Tyler’s thoughts on everything from his musical influences to the evolution of the genre.
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